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The Dark and Ugly Recesses of the Internet

Mr DANBY (Melbourne Ports) (9.01 am)-  Jonathan Sacks, the Chief Rabbi of the Commonwealth, offered the following comment in response to a recent speech by Iranian President Ahmadinejad:

There can be no doubt as to the most tenacious ideology of modern times. German fascism came and went. Soviet Communism came and went. Anti-Semitism came and stayed.

Rabbi Sacks went on to note that the re-emergence of anti-Semitism is one of the most frightening phenomena of  his lifetime because it is happening after 60 years of education about  the Second World War, anti-racist legislation and interfaith dialogue. As a member of parliament in this great democratic country of Australia, I am saddened to have to agree with the Chief Rabbi of the Commonwealth. Indeed, there is a modern resurgence of anti-Semitism, although Australia, with its unofficial doctrine of a fair go, is perhaps the most tolerant and pluralist of all global societies. Constituent communities contribute to the success of pluralism.

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Eric Beecher, owner of Crickey.com

The Australian Jewish community has made a substantial and durable contribution to this country, offering a distinct culture that nonetheless furthers cohesion and the national interest by its commitment to core democratic values, secularist laws and the constraints of our parliamentary system.

As members will no doubt know, the Jewish presence in Australia began with the First Fleet and has grown to some 120,000, according to the authoritative Jewish population survey just published by the Australian Centre for Jewish Civilisation at Monash University. Recent generations of Australian Jews have never forgotten the debt to the Australian people who provided refuge to our parents and grandparents, the remnants of European Jewry, during and before the darkest period of Jewish history, the Nazi genocide of the Second World War.

Within this history and context of Australian tolerance and pluralism, I recently spoke of the bigotry that has attended the exponential rise and proliferation of the internet. In particular, I focused on two Australian online magazines, Newmatilda and Crikey, with their slanted commentary on the Middle East which has been used as a cover for unmoderated, unleashed and unhinged comments on their websites.

My analysis prompted an exchange of letters between well-known civil rights organisation the Anti-Defamation Commission and Newmatilda's editor, Marni Cordell. In April of this year the Anti-Defamation Commission sent Cordell a sober, detailed and careful analysis of the magazines' contents for the first three months of 2009, highlighting ADC's concerns over not its partisan opinion but the broad slabs of hate speak published in the comments section following each article. En passant, Cordell virtually agreed that her online publication presented no semblance of fairness, asserting her publication's role was as a counterweight to the biased, pro-Israel media. One wonders what planet she lived on during the war in Gaza.

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Marni Cordell - New Matilda

Cordell fudged why Newmatilda publishes blatantly bigoted commentary, even though the magazine explicitly reserves the right to moderate that commentary if it is abusive or promotes hate. Only since being exposed has Newmatilda stopped publishing race hate in its comment columns. I seek leave to table some of the comments that followed articles in these two publications during the first three months of 2009:

 

Comments from Crikey.com and New Matilda.com

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"61% of Jews don't live in Israel and they are perfectly safe as they would be if the stupid place ceased to exist tomorrow." -blogger maryj commenting on David Hollier's article ‘Obama can Convince Israel', 25/03/2009 New Matilda

"The racist Zionist(s) are not simply un-Australian in their lying, bigotry, psychotic injustice and racism - they are also anti-Australian and pose a huge threat to not only Australia but the whole World." Blogger DrGideonPolya commenting on  Michael Brull's article ‘If Israel Does It Then It Can't be Wrong' 13/1/09 New Matilda


"Nazi German and Israeli policy will herd people into concentration camps, ghettos and other forms of imprisonment whilst simultaneously embarking on a policy of genocide, infanticide, theft of lebensraum, eradication and ethnic cleansing".   Blogger Rockjaw commenting on Roland Boer's article ‘The Myth of the Holy Land' 2/2/09 New Matilda

"Only fascist states like Israel today, Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia, and countless non-democratic, tyrannical, thug states like Israel do this in this day and age." Blogger RosRoss commenting on Bruce Riedal's article ‘Palestine: The Ultimate Franchise', 5/2/09 New Matilda

"The greatest difficulty is the level of denial with which most Israelis and all of their supporters live which ranges from delusional dysfunction to the criminally psychotic." Blogger RosRoss commenting on Antony Lowenstein's article ‘An Israel of the Mind', 19/2/09 New Matilda

"Most people find it an increasingly inescapable conclusion that Zionism and Nazism are fundamentally of the same genus: to whit, an attempt to glorify a largely imagined nation-race (a "superior" race to boot) by somehow resurrecting its semi-mythological past in the form of a modern and expansionist nation-state, which in both cases only leads to mass murder." -blogger Rockjaw commenting on the article ‘The Things You Don't Want to See', By Michael Brull 4/2/09 New Matilda

"Society will have to become aware of the structures used by our zionists to effect this dark control over our cultures and to intervene on behalf of both Jew and gentile to free Jews from that inner darkness and Palestinians from racist murdering zionist genocidalism." Blogger Rockjaw commenting on Antony Loewnstein article ‘An Israel of the Mind' 19/2/09 New Matilda

‘The Gaza Ghetto-like shooting fish in a barrel. Don't it make you feel proud?'- blogger Tim commenting on ‘The Gaza Strip: A Crikey ceasefire wrap' compiled by Eleri Harris 8/1/09 Crikey.com

"tell us your last name..or are you just another Zionist coward, barracking from behind your nom de plume for the killing of innocent civilians .....you are full of shit........but of course the Crikey readership had made up its mind in that regard long before this issue arose......ZIONIST COWARD."  Blogger Kevin Charles Herbet commenting on Guy Rundle's article  "The comic tragedy of Gaza" 13/1/09  Crikey.com

"Sadly the power base of modern Judaism/Zionism, not to mention fundamentalist Jewish Orthodoxy, is a racist, xenophobic group of "Australian Jews," nearly all males, nearly all completely racist in that they view everything in life through the prism of race and tribalism."Blogger Hugh commenting on Greg Barns' article "It's ok to be racist, just not about Israelis" 2/2/09 Crikey.com

"The Zionists exploit the massive racist discrimination and genocide exercised by the Nazis against Jews in general as a means of deflecting criticism from their own racist policies which they pursue with vigour."   Blogger Greg Angelo commenting on Greg Barns' article  "It's ok to be racist, just not about Israelis" 2/2/09 Crikey.com

"Like any other reasonable person, I know full well that millions of gypsies, disabled, homosexuals, Jews and members of many other minorities were murdered in "The Holocaust", but still, isn't freedom of speech more important? It's also worrying that nobody seems to be speaking for the millions of people other than Jews killed during this time. Are their voices being drowned out by the Jewish and Jewish influenced, media?  blogger Bill Malkin commenting on Antony Loewenstein article -"Palestine, Israel and the need for freedom of speech" 18/5/09 Crikey.com

"Zionism and the Zionists which it breeds is a sickness. Zionism is a debilitating fatal disease which has infected this planet for too long and it is encumbent upon mankind to rid ourselves of this disease before it reaches a terminal stage and consumes us all." - blogger Rockjaw commenting on Israelis following Jim Alexander's article ‘Peeking into Gaza'-22/1/09

‘Why does history have to repeat itself? Why does humanity have to go through the pain of having to rid itself of yet another group of sick psychopathic savages hell bent on genocide or suicide?
Clearly this is a disease, an incurable malady. Does the world really want a state set aside exclusively for a nation of psychopaths, pathological liars, genocidaires, killers and empty, backward, soulless non-productive parasites with nothing to contribute to humanity but deceit, suspicion, greed and malice.'-blogger Rockjaw commenting on Israelis following Jim Alexander's article ‘Peeking into Gaza'-22/1/09

"These intellectually & morally corrupt Israeli fascists don't care what the world thinks of their atrocities...just like the Nazis didn't. They expect to get away with it...and why wouldn't they given their jackbooting of the past 41 years. Mugabe has more credibility than these bastards."   Blogger Kevin Charles Herbert commenting on Greg Barns' article ‘ Backman column: Israeli lobby censorship', 23/1/09 Crikey.com

"The Zionists exploit the massive racist discrimination and genocide exercised by the Nazis against Jews in general as a means of deflecting criticism from their own racist policies which they pursue with vigour."  Blogger Greg Angelo commenting on Greg Barns article ‘It's ok to be racist, just not about Israeli's' 2/2/09 Crieky.com

Crikey and its editor, Jonathan Green, have made no explanation or issued no apology. Eric Beecher, the owner of Crikey, who hails from a similar ethnic cultural background to me, owes an explanation for Crikey's publication of these hate filled comments. Such comments would be suited for publication in Julius

Streicher's Der Sturmer.

I take as my guide the definition suggested by former Soviet dissident and human rights activist Natan Sharansky in addressing these issues in total. Mr Sharansky distinguishes the anti-Jewish hatred and legitimate criticism of Israel  by his 3D principles. He warns to look for three things: demonisation, delegitimisation and double standards.

Looking at the coverage in Crikey and Newmatilda we see a tiny country of seven million people portrayed as a manipulator of world events, a state engaged in ethnic separation-without any mention of the thousands of civilians murdered by homicide bombers- and an initiator of wars that have no strategic or defensive codex. That is demonisation.

Of course people can be fairly critical of any state in the world and critical of particular actions of any state, but, following the Sharansky model, anyone who looks at Cordell's Newmatilda or Green's Crikey during this period could only conclude that Israel was a country deserving of rocket attacks on its citizens and not entitled to defend its sovereignty. That is delegitimisation. Scant attention is given in the same publications to Burma, Darfur, Zimbabwe, Tibet, North Korea, Chechnya, Eastern Turkistan or any other place witnessing gross abuse of human rights. That is a double standard.

I was particularly outraged, however, by the tenor of  some readers' comments which followed these articles and contained repeated examples of bigotry. I have tabled a small percentage of these verbatim comments from the Newmatilda and Crikey websites from the first three months of this year. Of course, all members will find these comments as abhorrent as I do. No doubt some members will ask the obvious question: how does this kind of vile commentary following the articles-I am not talking about the actual articles; people are entitled to have different

views on these kinds of things-find its way onto a site that reserves the right to censor such comments?

The editors of Newmatilda were not moved to address this issue until I publicly intervened. Thereafter, on 7 July, they responded by way of an editorial that began:

Regular readers will notice that we have turned off all comments on articles about Israel/Palestine. Predictably, what followed was a long self-justification, which read in part:

Historically, we have erred on the side of free speech-we did not pre-moderate comments on the site, which is rare in this litigious age, because we wanted to promote open and diverse debate. Open and diverse debate is different from publishing unregulated, vile racism.

Again, I repeat that the Newmatilda decision to moderate their own site happened not out of consistency or out of some sense of decency but because the searchlight of public opinion was shone on these dark and ugly recesses of the internet.

Two regular contributors to Crikey and Newmatilda-Antony Loewenstein and his Sancho Panza, Michael Brull-also responded tomy speech in a jointly authored article stating that my criticism could be condensed into the following:

Michael Danby erodes his credibility by accusing two Jews of anti-Semitism because they don't agree with him ...

I am certainly content to reiterate here that, in relation to their commentary of the conflict, the two individuals are guilty of double standards, demonisation and delegitimisation. However, contrary to their response, their ethnicity was not addressed in my speech at all because it was clearly not my principal concern.

Their writing and the editorial bias of the online publications for which they write clearly puts them on the fringe of Australian politics. If one compares the things that they wrote with, say, Labor Party discussions at the recent national conference, one would see that they are completely outside the mainstream of the centre-left party in this country, for instance. For those writers to seek refuge behind their ethnicity is particularly craven. It is dishonest.

The thrust of my previous speech and tonight's lies with the creepier bigotry that their articles and other articles unleashed in these two online publications, which apparently had no problem with publishing them.

I agree with Thomas Friedman, who wrote:

Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is vile. But singling out Israel for opprobrium and international sanction- out of all proportion to any other party in the Middle East-is anti-Semitic, and not saying so is dishonest.

In examining the evidence of lopsided coverage of these two internet publications, our toughest critique must be of their unadulterated racism: the perverse nature of their criticisms and the vitriol that is not present in the appraisal of other conflicts; the use of terms such as ‘ethnic cleansing' and ‘Nazi'; and the dropping of all pretence of anti-Zionism by openly discussing Jews and so-called Jewish proclivities.

George Orwell wrote: To see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle.

Perhaps-but my fear is that the internet is now so pervaded by such views that they can attain a patina of truth and respectability. In many of the articles in both magazines, the ability to link and cross-reference to other sites and commentaries apparently bolsters and legitimises the views of the authors in circumstances where readers cannot vouch for the credibility of the concurring opinion. Opinions and commentary are therefore expressed in an ethical vacuum absent of the strictures which we have come to accept as inherent in the profession of journalism, such as fact checking and peer review.

It is clear in my view that Newmatilda.com and Crikey.com disgraced themselves and the wider circle of Australian journalism-and the tolerant ethos that characterises Australia-by publishing clearly bigoted comments in

the comments sections of their publications in the first three months of this year.


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Ha, Mr Dandby where did you dig up this picture?? i can send you a photo of me when i was seven if it would help build you case against me?! - marni cordell

Posted on 2009-09-25 05:07:29 GMT


Now Ive read everything.What post modernist bull Anon17/9 09.Its her.Its a fact.

Posted by Danke Shane on 2009-09-22 04:33:21 GMT


Your cordell picture is a caricature designed to perpetuate stereotypes

Posted on 2009-09-17 02:10:14 GMT


I am forever being surprised (and delighted) when I hear (often incidentally) that yet another noted person in society, in any one of the countless areas of the arts, the professions and entertainment etc. happens to be Jewish. Then again, I am not really surprised, am I, for yes, without a doubt, the influence, historically, of this most worthy minority is far, far above its numerical strength when compared to other socio-religious groups. Like most others I cannot explain the vitriolic and mindless attacks poured upon it, (ie apart from those who are taught from babyhood to HATE any Jew)other than to believe such rantings are the primal outpourings from crooked (mostly ignorant) souls who basically are envious and jealous of Jewish folk and their achievements .... indeed infected by the "tall-poppy syndrome" if you like. The internet is perfect for such craven uglinessss: unseen and unknown, individuals can type away, press a button and presto, it"s there for the world to see and to give to their anonymous purveyors that momentary gratifying flash of "fame" obviously missing from their own inglorious lives. Thank you Michael Danby for publically naming Crikey and New Matilda and their editors as the trash that they are.

Posted by Annabelle on 2009-09-13 12:26:59 GMT


Before 1967, the widespread antisemitism in Australia, as well as many other countries, was simply treading on the Jewish stereotypcal, despicable underdog. Since 1967, it has changed in many people to virulent spiteful envy and hatred, because of Isreali and Jewisn successes. Jewish non Zionists cannot escape that hatred. Loewenstein and his ilk are seeking publicity and notoriety with their anti Israel staements, and many of the fringe media are only too happy to oblige, and fan the flames of antisemitism, by claiming equal exposure for a very minute fraction of the Jewish community. I would like any of the antisemites to show what they have done for the advancement of the community. I suggest they look up Jewish Nobel prizewinners, but for their successes, many of these antisemites would have been dead by now.

Posted by Harry S on 2009-09-13 11:23:31 GMT


Before 1967, the widespread antisemitism in Australia, as well as many other countries, was simply treading on the Jewish stereotypcal, despicable underdog. Since 1967, it has changed in many people to virulent spiteful envy and hatred, because of Isreali and Jewisn successes. Jewish non Zionists cannot escape that hatred. Loewenstein and his ilk are seeking publicity and notoriety with their anti Israel staements, and many of the fringe media are only too happy to oblige, and fan the flames of antisemitism, by claiming equal exposure for a very minute fraction of the Jewish community. I would like any of the antisemites to show what they have done for the advancement of the community. I suggest they look up Jewish Nobel prizewinners, but for their successes, many of these antisemites would have been dead by now.

Posted by Harry S on 2009-09-13 11:19:11 GMT


Hear, hear!! What a relief to see true leadership displayed in our national Parliament. Thank you Michael!

Posted by Steve Lieblich on 2009-09-13 09:45:25 GMT


Thank you Michael for being publicly frank and outspoken. There is an element in Australian society that loves to hate,- they hate us Jews; they hate Israel; they hate every successful person in what"s called the "tall poppy syndrome;they hate each other; their hatred comes out in violence in the streets, in violence against their partners at home in what"s called domestic violence. My bet is that these people also hate animals! What the internet has allowed them to do is to express their hatred on blogs,- if they allow them! The newspapers don"t print these vile comments,- the writers know they won"t print their rubbish, but the internet? It"s a free-for-all for crazies in particular! Thank you for pointing it out that it is our community which is too often targeted,- as for Israel,just because it is a Jewish and very successful nation State, these haters cannot bear it. Do they love its Arab enemies more? I doubt it.

Posted by Malvina on 2009-09-13 07:34:11 GMT


Well done, Mr Danby. You are the only effective voice speaking for Jews in Australia at the moment. So dysfunctional is regulation of the Australian media that countless letters and protests against biased and anti-Jewish/Israeli coverage fall on indifferent and callous ears. Fortunately, comments in Parliament have much more effect in rectifying the calumny our haters promote. Bigotry, hatred and their offspring, antisemitism, thrive on the internet and in many media vehicles in this nation, and they seem unstoppable. Cordell of newmatilda, Green of crikey and their execrable cronies have sold out to racism and forfeited their standing as independent sources of reasoned commentary. They are manipulated by bigoted and violent forces, and they seem to revel in their new found readership. The influence of Goebbels resonates in these publications and their modus operandi. Never in his wildest dreams or most fervent hopes would he have expected to be this successful 70 years later, half a world away. Your efforts, Mr Danby, are exemplary and we are truly grateful.

Posted by Dr Barry Walters. Perth on 2009-09-13 06:38:54 GMT


Well done Michael Danby. When are your colleagues in govt going to publicly support you?

Posted on 2009-09-13 04:54:40 GMT


Full credit to Beecher for conceding Crikey went to far.You should post on this site. Marked contrast to Lowenstein.

Posted on 2009-09-13 03:13:41 GMT